WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



10thofMay 5:09 Tue Jan 14
Re: Keto diet & bodybuilding
Basically what Fivetide said.

I went on a keto diet last September for 3 weeks and it worked well in terms of losing weight and fat around the tummy.

No energy level loss (I'm 56, cycle weekly and pretty fit.)

However, I don't body build!

Fivetide 4:51 Tue Jan 14
Re: Keto diet & bodybuilding
Lots of those shake diets rely on keto. They give you controlled calories, macros, vitamins and micro nutrients and you just about get through it. You'll definitely, definitely lose weight, but you won't feel terriifc - especially if you cut corners on water and sleep.

dolph 4:48 Tue Jan 14
Re: Keto diet & bodybuilding
Just work out your desired macros and then calorie count, using an app like "my fitness pal", you disgracefully fat cunt.

Block 4:46 Tue Jan 14
Re: Keto diet & bodybuilding
Bloke a work done this for about 2 weeks, and because of the lack of carbs his energy levels were terrible and got what they call Keto flu. He was in bed for a week because of it.

Council Scum 4:44 Tue Jan 14
Re: Keto diet & bodybuilding
The Keto diet is shit.

Bodybuilding is for nonces.

Fivetide 4:39 Tue Jan 14
Re: Keto diet & bodybuilding
Cut out carbs entirely, cut your calories right back to 800 a day and drink water like a fish. After about four or five days you'll stop feeling the starvation and begin burning fat. Fuck with it, and you'll burn muscle. Stay in this zone and you'll lose several pounds a week until you reach your target of 2 stone, 4 stone, 6 stone or whatever. It does work and will work unless you veer off - it's just biochemistry. You'll finf it hard to do much exercise during the diet other than a daily stroll.

However, at some point you'll definitely need to stop the lunacy and start eating a balanced diet again - albeit one without any crap, including much in the way of refined carbs. You'll put on half a stone immediately, but can then sustainthe the rest of the loss if you've taken the time during the diet to actually plan life long changes in the way you eat.

But if you don't have an exit strategy or long-term plan of better nutrition coupled with exercise, it'll all go back on eventually. The people who say it doesn't work and you'll put it all back on are sort of half right. It certainly does work, but you need to change your lifestyle afterwards.

So, it will help you shed pounds quickly, but it's not sustainable in the long run. You'll need to spend the painful period of dieting developing a long-term strategy for eating healthier and being active. But perhaps just shedding the weight is all you need to get a bit more active, in which case it could work for you.

goose 4:35 Tue Jan 14
Re: Keto diet & bodybuilding
to the original point, it depends on what you mean by "bodybuilding".

if you wanna build muscle then you will need a lot of protein, so more atkins than keto?
also carbs are important in muscle building, the most important thing most workout if some fast releasing carbs - like a jam sandwich on white bread.

if you mean getting lean than keto will work if you're doing it in a calorie deficit.

Block 4:30 Tue Jan 14
Re: Keto diet & bodybuilding
The diet is just as if not more important.

Bloke a work is doing it, I do agree it is for cunts though.

goose 4:27 Tue Jan 14
Re: Keto diet & bodybuilding
Fury's "dirty keto" is ridiculous.

i think his weight loss was more to do with starting training again and giving up "18 pints a night".

goose 4:24 Tue Jan 14
Re: Keto diet & bodybuilding
its for cunts.

thats why its a "diet". anything that excludes certain food groups wont last.

Block 4:22 Tue Jan 14
Re: Keto diet & bodybuilding
Tyson Fury done this diet, he lost 10 stone.

HTH





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